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hand history 24 May 2012 10:47 #10067

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It's a great pity folded cards can't be displayed in hand history.
Could learn a lot more from that, than whole won games.
Why is it impossibile to do that?
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Re: hand history 24 May 2012 15:02 #10068

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There are a couple of reasons.

First... yes it would be nice to be able to view your own log file and see YOUR folded hands only. There is no reason to see other player's folded hands since you cannot do that at ANY poker table.

Secondly... Even recording your own folded hands is not a good idea at this point. PTH log files are used to document games and be shared with other players if needed. For example, Cup and Tournament games. If someone shared their local log file with the community, then THEIR folded hands, (and theirs only), would be visible to anyone reading the logs.
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Re: hand history 01 Jul 2012 04:37 #10514

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You cant be serial! Sharing games that nobody wants to review is more important than making analysis of hands you played?

Besides, if the programmer really thinks sharing whole games was an important issue, it would be easy to make two kinds of saving options, with hole cards and without.

If you want to learn poker, going through hand histories is essential, and thats pretty hard if you don't remember what hole cards you had. Maybe that explains...

Couple of other important improvements would be possibility muting annoying people and banning e.g. all in donks from your games (doesnt help with guests, but you can start a game for registered people only).

Also delay between hands is like 5 seconds. How about 0 seconds, or as short as possible with the server?

Then multi-tabling. And possibility to see your own stats from all the game types played, possibly by sorting them with player numbers, like heads-ups only etc. Like is done at Hercemer's great stats page for DDP.

Allowing observers would be nice, but lesser priority IMO.
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Re: hand history 01 Jul 2012 08:00 #10516

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Besides, if the programmer really thinks sharing whole games was an important issue, it would be easy to make two kinds of saving options, with hole cards and without.

That's true but you mean only YOUR hole card right. it would be a nonsense to be able to see the other's card when they don't show them.
Also if you really want to analyse your game, you can take a sheet of paper, a pen and write every hand you folded and that could be interesting. ( no need for example to write that you folded 7 3 under the gun )
Then multi-tabling.
I don't see the point of multi-tabling in play-money poker. The capacity of multi-tabling is a good skill when you play poker to win money, otherwise it is also a nonsense as it implied that you don't play your best poker.
And possibility to see your own stats from all the game types played, possibly by sorting them with player numbers, like heads-ups only etc.
You looks motivated enough to work hard to improve your game. Here again, you can write the game you've played with how many player player on a sheet of paper or in your computer.

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Re: hand history 02 Jul 2012 00:45 #10528

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Wierd-Fish wrote:
That's true but you mean only YOUR hole card right. it would be a nonsense to be able to see the other's card when they don't show them.

Yes of course. Wanting to see opponent's non-showdown hands would be silly. (Mucked showdown hands on the other hand should be shown in the hand history, because it's within the rules to get to see them if you ask)
Also if you really want to analyse your game, you can take a sheet of paper, a pen and write every hand you folded and that could be interesting. ( no need for example to write that you folded 7 3 under the gun )

Sure, but just a bit too much trouble in play-money games. Why not just to put them in hand history automagically?
I don't see the point of multi-tabling in play-money poker. The capacity of multi-tabling is a good skill when you play poker to win money, otherwise it is also a nonsense as it implied that you don't play your best poker.

I don't agree. I only play heads ups here, and i'd rather play 2 tables of heads-ups at once. Against the same opponent if he is willing. If not, then another. Reasons are related to keeping the thinking times the same not to give out timing tells. Unfortunately that slows down the game, so its general practice to play 2 tables, or even more.
You looks motivated enough to work hard to improve your game. Here again, you can write the game you've played with how many player player on a sheet of paper or in your computer.

Doing that, but I'd prefer server managed statistics. Simpler, and adds a nice competition aspect that works a bit like putting some money in a pot.

Here if you want to compete with stats you are limited to "ranked games". I prefer to play mostly heads ups (or 6max cash games), and because here you can't ban non-serious players and no real money involved, many players just go all in within the first few hands. In heads ups you can just abort the game and get another opponent, but donkaments get silly and don't resemble much real games (dunno about freerolls, tho. Never played them).
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Re: hand history 02 Jul 2012 17:54 #10536

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Then multi-tabling.
I don't see the point of multi-tabling in play-money poker. The capacity of multi-tabling is a good skill when you play poker to win money, otherwise it is also a nonsense as it implied that you don't play your best poker.

I would love MTT here! It would give a great opportunity for, say, a monthly tournament with the top 100 or 1000 players eligible. Top 10 simply means you get the best 10 players out of those who have enough time on their hands to play lots of SnG.

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