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Subject: WEEKEND CUP: Vote Deleted Twice - by: Codeman

Wed, 16 May 2012 19:23:57 +0000

Hi cuppers, I voted twice this afternoon in 'doodle' to play the game of 21:00
www.doodle.com/59x5rufad39y9vag#table

I voted at 18:00 and after at 19:00 (when I saw my first vote disapeared). I voted before the vote of player '.parkralle' (I have the screenshot of my second vote).

I arrived in time to lobby [21:00] and the WEC table was open, with 9 players inside, I said hello to all them waiting the invitation. All them said hello except one and game started suddenly

Why my doodle's-vote has been deleted twice? (it was there at 20:40)
Is there any limit to win games or should I finish 2nd next game and let organization win for I can play ? Is it a new rule (actually speed of rules is 1 by sec, all them focused in me (please players check the progression of the rules) )?

Thanks in advance and good luck to everybody, enjoy is the most important.

>Additional Info<
2012-05-16 Between 23:00 and 0:00. Main Lobby. Conversation with 'DowntheRiver' (One and Only Organizer and responsible of the WEC-Cup [Real Callsign Name: DTR's-Cup]).
[Screenshots available, only words from other players deleted]

Codeman: I signed doodle twice
Codeman: and was deleted twice
Codeman: not polite
DowntheRiver: Codeman you will get your answer by time in the forum
Codeman: danke DowntheRiver
DowntheRiver: you welcome
Codeman: fear is not good in poker
DowntheRiver: nobofy fears here anything
DowntheRiver: i guess you know the reason anyway
Codeman: no
Codeman: 3 days out and I'm treated in this way
Codeman: I don't understand why
Codeman: not polite
Codeman: not educated
DowntheRiver: well i am commited to say everything only in aggrement with others
DowntheRiver: i stick to that
Codeman: this attitude only seems like if someone can't win me in games and prefer to make me out
Codeman: I have been always polite DowntheRiver
DowntheRiver: sure
Codeman: specially with you
DowntheRiver: and thats ironic
Codeman: you were doing good actions and i forgot your past
DowntheRiver: as i said you get your answer bye
Codeman: because everybody deserves a new opportunity

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For readers, please review the rules of WEC-Cup and you will see how 'DTR' (DowntheRiver) has being adding rule after rule just to don't allow me participate in Cup. I did nothing, I only played and I tried to win, being respectful with players (is not this the objective of Poker TH ?) but 'DTR' became angry with me after every time i won personally, with insults (all them registered, you were there Tila, you saw 'DTR' reaction after my last victory: "DowntheRiver: pffff you know where you can kiss me").

I see now that for 'DTR' instead of try to improve its Poker and try to win me with cards, 'DTR' prefers to disguise its 'own decision' as a 'WEC Community' decision. Amazing. Is it a democratic Cup or a controlled Cup only by 1 person?

Well, everybody knows me (I've played with all you) and I respect your opinion, It has been good play with all you and you are who decide, I acept your decision, but I prefer that cuppers tell to me their decision instead of only one angry person

About you 'DTR', I think you know that is registered all what you did during and since Ranking 5 (game titles, players and more). Yes, still carved in stone . Just in advance for you a little coincidence: the person that was harassing me last year threatened me saying that "my dead body would appear floating down the river"... You can imagine my surprise, when some days after, someone created a very similar nick... and started to open games with very significant names
..and more things... but next days... please 'DTR' check the meaning of words "lapsus clavius" because you will need to know them to understand my next post.

Sorry to WEC Players because that is not related with WEC-Cup, but I had enough with that people that laughed a lot of me last year (using me as a a element of distraction, a smoke curtain, for their actions) and they continue doing behind new disguises (this night I have discovered a new one, lol the player forgot to change its usual avatar and joined my game). Special apologies for der-yogi and Tila because you improve this place everyday and is my wish too, It is not my intention to damage or hurt, just show the trues even when I know I will be hated for that (indeed I was 3 months thinking about publish several things but I prefered to forget and forgive, but they have continued crossing limits). I hope you understand me. I only will play WEC if players consider I can.

See you.

Subject: Ranking. Compilation of suggestions - by: Codeman

Wed, 16 May 2012 16:11:31 +0000

Hi all.

I was reading some posts about the requested improvements for the ranking system. I wanted to share some very interesting posts from last years discussing about this.

The actual ranking system is a open system with a lot of possible modifications and improvements, and actually the Poker TH Team told that is working to improve it, also with the ideas of several players with knowledge of maths and probabilities that are helping at forum.

Here I copy some links with useful ideas (in chronological order), maybe someone can suggest new ones or a mix of them, be patient with changes

'duckyfuzz' (08 May 2009):
www.pokerth.net/forum/15-features-reques...t=6&start=6#3160

'real' (03 Dec 2009):
www.pokerth.net/forum/15-features-reques...m-proposal.html#3886

'MichaelBrown' (11 Feb 2011):
www.pokerth.net/forum/29-score/5940-neue...ten-geldes.html#6082

'Maytsh' (09 Feb 2012):
www.pokerth.net/forum/29-score/8612-elo-a-poker.html#8612

You can add more links or ideas here. We have tried several times at forum to organize all them.

Personally, I think the ranking should evaluate each player on its own merits and circumstances, and the points obtained in every game should take into account, in some way, the rivals stats (ELO or similar modified). Regarding the number of games played, there are players who can play more than 500 per season while others do not have time to play the 100 required, so it might not be an important factor, but perhaps an added bonus. Perhaps use a logarithmic-system instead than a linear progression? (just an idea).

See you at games, enjoy is the most important.

Subject: Re: WEEKEND CUP - by: Codeman

Wed, 16 May 2012 14:04:09 +0000

Thanks for explaining 'doh'. I was in an area where satellites and phones are not available and It was not possible to change my vote in time.

If it happens again and I arrive late, please do not wait for me (no more than 3-4 minutes of courtesy. I always try to be ready 30 minutes before any meeting because I don't like to make people waste time).

Subject: Re: What's the purpose of ranking? - by: Tila

Tue, 15 May 2012 17:29:50 +0000

Good comment, Grokly.
Marcel wrote it again and again, there`ll come some modifications at the current ranking system to make it more fair. We should not forget, that poker-heroes.com lost two important persons. They concentrate more to system stability and performance.
Players, stay cool
github.com/pokerth/pokerth/issues/121

Tila

Subject: Re: clasificacion - by: Grokly

Tue, 15 May 2012 16:41:28 +0000

pppatillas wrote:

cuando se notificara los jugadores clasificados en la 1 temporada de 2012 para jugar el torneo

se puede hacer algo con los jugadores que abren las partidas que pone 5sek y realmente son de 60 segundos?

- - - - -
(Rough translation)
when notified of the players ranked in the 1 season of 2012 to play the tournament

you can do something with the players that open the game and really putting 5sek are 60 seconds?

A table name will probably never be checked against the game settings. My suggestion is "look before you leap".

Check the settings of the game before you join it. Anyone who does not, deserves what they get.

Here's another recent post on the same topic about players trying to scam you with these types of false table names.

Subject: Re: What's the purpose of ranking? - by: Grokly

Tue, 15 May 2012 16:30:17 +0000

For anyone asking this question, I strongly suggest you browse through the forums. There have been MANY threads just like this one pointing out the issues with the current ranking system.

Here's the bottom line.

1. The developers of this game know about the issues.

2. The developers are looking into how to resolve the issues to make it more fair to the serious players here.

3. There has been a recent turnover in the developer staff. Changes will come, but we are in a period of time where new developers are coming up to speed.

In the meantime... enjoy the game. If it helps, don't look at the rank position. Instead, look at the total number of games and the percentage of top-level placements within that total. (A player who has played over 100 games and places 1st, 2nd or 3rd in over 60% of those games is generally going to be a good player.)

Subject: clasificacion - by: pppatillas

Tue, 15 May 2012 16:27:36 +0000

Subject: What's the purpose of ranking? - by: zuzzurellone

Mon, 14 May 2012 23:06:51 +0000

Let me to explain:

A good player start to play 100 games, and after three month, puff ! score is reset. Stop.

It's double hard to get first 10 positions, because:

In the mean time, "tricky" player do:
1) register a player, play ten games, if good strike, ok, try to play another ten games, if not, simply restart ...

2) point 1 is not enough for "tricky" player, because he usually is not so good, so he needs a "donkey partner"

give a check to Buzinaldo:
23 games: first 14 with "Mirtz_Pop", "Mirtz_Pop" play only 19 games ... obviously with Buzinaldo

ok, this is already discussed, but this is free poker, the ranking is the purpose to play a good table, and if not, go always allin and spend some time to play random.

Subject: Aw: WEEKEND CUP - by: DowntheRiver

Mon, 14 May 2012 19:26:20 +0000

thx doh i extended for another go on next Sunday

Subject: Re: WEEKEND CUP - by: doh

Mon, 14 May 2012 18:06:07 +0000

Codeman, since we were just a party of 4 we descided to reschedule the final for another date.
personally i'd suggest next sunday, same time.
can anyone involved expand the doodle dates - dunno how:
www.doodle.com/uw8ddn6nng2z5g2y
cheers

Subject: DOODLE OPEN - by: DowntheRiver

Mon, 14 May 2012 17:21:06 +0000

The Doodle for this week is open to sign:
www.doodle.com/59x5rufad39y9vag

We will test fixing the seating in the doodle 1 hour before,
please check your mark if you really playing until then.

@ parkralle
please use a doodle account which can not be deleted!

Subject: Re: WEEKEND CUP - by: kcer1te

Mon, 14 May 2012 09:44:36 +0000

Dear Big Bear
You're an Internet loving, person.
All day, watching the pth forum
You love the poker
a week and play / play 2-3-4?
or are you more avatars?
It's your nickel, not dirty?
And is your ip, is German?
a + + + + game ranklist sur pth pseudo pour toi

Subject: Re: Scores for WE CUP's - by: der-yogi

Sun, 13 May 2012 22:09:46 +0000

WE CUP 40 - 22:00 - 13/05/2012

1 der-yogi
2 Emmeler hand 129
3 EXOGino hand 126
4 hata hand 122
5 doh hand 119
6 otto-a hand 107
7 Nelly hand 88
8 gohgpobn hand 80
9 LiLaLux hand 62
10 YuGo hand 57

Subject: Re: WEEKEND CUP - by: Codeman

Sun, 13 May 2012 20:42:38 +0000

My apologies to the WEC players, I had an unexpected trip today and I arrived late for the final. I had no time to change my vote in 'doodle', It was an emergency, sorry. Good luck to everyone and enjoy.

Subject: Warn for ridiculous players - by: efgh

Sat, 12 May 2012 23:04:53 +0000

just played a game with C.Eastwood and 55 sec (fiftyfive) seconds timeout,
C.Eastwood folded 25 times in a row always after 55 sec !!!
he has ranking 7 right now - he's strategy is to make all other players
total impatiently or even quitting early!

Very rude player !!!!

Subject: Re: WEEKEND CUP - by: der-yogi

Sat, 12 May 2012 21:41:13 +0000

Hi YoGo, win me??, DowntheRiver

I think we should try to resolve problems within the community and find a way everyone can be happy with it.

Means: let us start again and forget what happened.

Nobody is excluded and nobody needs to leave.

Everybody is asked for reflection.

So there is no need for anybody to leave the WE Cup.

Please think about it and I hope you will change your decisions.

@YuGo: I respect your decision. You've solved this problem for you. I take it as a big call to the community for refection.

Subject: strange ranking - by: spacebox

Sat, 12 May 2012 18:24:29 +0000

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/vreemdescore.png/

Must be 10 10 I think

Subject: Re: Time for new ranking points? - by: NextName

Sat, 12 May 2012 15:23:19 +0000

Bluffer wrote:

[..]
Start a new system ! Every player gets 100.000 $ .
Playing a tour will cost 10K $ . ONLY the top 3 get money ( as an example 50K to number 1 and 30K to number 2 and 20K to number 3.) All others loose 10K each.
In this way ( as with real money ) you have the best player with the highest amount of money.
no matter if you play 100 times a week or 1 time a month.
and btw - its a good training place.

I sympathize with the idea of counting only the first 3 in a 10 player sit'n'go. In real life/when played for money, I doubt there are many examples where you pay more than the first 3 of 10 players.

I fear, though, it would give even more incentive to do the unsensible All-ins in the first 5 hands (especially for mediocre players): since it doesn't matter if you finish 10th or 4th, they might want to gamble to have double or triple stack early on the get into the final 3.

OTOH, I very much like the idea of using a virtual currency as a measure. [I doubt that 100K vs. 10K/game is the best idea, since there are simply a couple of meaningless zeros there, but that's not really a problem.] Keep in mind: You'd have to be able to reload another initial amount of capital when you're broke (as otherwise you'd loose players on the way). But that's not a problem as the system can easily keep track of all amount you're virtually paying vs. those you virtually receive by finishing in the top 3.

Heck, this virtual cash system could easily be implemented in parallel to the existing ranking system?

Subject: Aw: Re: IGNORE FUNCTION FOR FORUM - by: DowntheRiver

Sat, 12 May 2012 13:54:10 +0000

Hi doitux and team

My big thanx also for have an understanding and act in such direct initiative.
We are aware this manners are not in your responsibilty and disturbing your work flow, lets hope this made an end to it.

DtR

Subject: Re: WEEKEND CUP - by: HUGO

Sat, 12 May 2012 12:33:33 +0000

Breath

Reflection

And win

Subject: WEC 39 CUP - by: HUGO

Sat, 12 May 2012 11:43:56 +0000

WE CUP 39 - 22:00 - 11/05/2012

1 YuGo
2 EXOGino
3 DowntheRiver
4 Filmore
5 Lou Flush
6 der-yogi
7 gohgpobn
8 otto-a
9 Groucho Marx
10 Dr.Ijiwaru

Subject: Re: IGNORE FUNCTION FOR FORUM - by: Tila

Sat, 12 May 2012 07:43:57 +0000

A big thank you admins for cleaning the forum. Good work, well done!!!

Tila

Subject: Re: WEEKEND CUP - by: win me??

Fri, 11 May 2012 20:49:09 +0000

we can

Subject: Re: WEEKEND CUP - by: HUGO

Fri, 11 May 2012 17:14:37 +0000

Hi All

I would like to ask a favour for table administradors for tonight.
I am not signing the doodle for 22:00, because i don't want to committe my self saying that i will show and in the end i miss the cup.
Running against time is hard, and the most times, only know at the last minute if I am able to play or not.
So if i am at the lobby at that time pls count me in

@Grokly : Thank you very much to consider it.
It's very wise from you, not committing yourself with something you cannot, after.
In any case, I hope your answer is yes, if, it does not influence your personal life.
It would be a pleasure having you on board, but priorities come first, and wish you all the best.

@Tila : What a wonderfull research
I am very pleased to see the community involved in this project.
This things consume time and thank you very much for your work.

I my self am working in advertise for this project.
I caught a flight to Washington and talked with Barack Obama because the presidential elections are approaching.
The negotiations were extremely harsh.
I'll have to walk the Portuguese water dog, which is the mascot presidential (could be worse, he has my nationality, so I guess we will not have problems with language).
And in return he will scream at the end of his speeches

YES WEE KEND YES WEE KEND YES WEE KEND

GOD BLESS THE WORLD AND WEEKEND CUP'S

PS: I am not kidding !!!

...I realy know how to speack the Portuguese Water Dog language...

Big cheers to all

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Subject: Re: Synchronization bug? - by: John Johnson

Fri, 11 May 2012 17:09:51 +0000

Seventh place, but I not played this game www.poker-heroes.com/gameresult.html?Game_ID=71246. Immediatly after the synchronization error I opened the program but the reconnect message did not appear. All this is very frustrating.

Subject: Re: Synchronization bug? - by: John Johnson

Fri, 11 May 2012 16:28:31 +0000

Again, few minutes ago same error, in italian "impossibile avviare, sincronizzazione non riuscita", with google translate "not start, failed synchronization". Probably another tenth position like previos game www.poker-heroes.com/gameresult.html?Game_ID=68490. This time I saved an empty log file. That's a pity, my ramking will suffer.

Subject: PokerHeroes.com Bug - by: gfgh

Fri, 11 May 2012 04:35:55 +0000

I play 3 poker games and 3 of them show up in Rank-O-Meter Running Season on profile page, but only 2 show up in Current Position and Current Season Statistics. Game that not show up here the first one that played, and show up correctly for the other players that play game (in their profiles not mine). What can be the cause?

poker-heroes.com/profile.html?hero=40188

Can go here and see that first game play show up but not show up ("ENJOY POKER " under Game History where get a 1 place).

Subject: Re: WEEKEND CUP - by: DamnRiver

Fri, 11 May 2012 02:27:59 +0000

Excellent, Tila! Thank u very much!

Subject: Re: WEEKEND CUP - by: Tila

Fri, 11 May 2012 00:08:41 +0000

Here are some statistics, it was a boring day
Date : 10.05.2012, played games : 38, wec players : 73, placement points based on pokerth ranking 1.=24, 2.=16, 3.=10, 4.=6, 5.=3, 6.=2, 7.=1, no average points, malus, bonus, minimum 4 played games

Wec ranking

01) Nelly, 219 points, 24 games
02) DowntheRiver, 209 points, 20 games
03) YuGo, 137 points, 14 games
04) otto-a, 116 points, 16 games
05) Emmeler, 112 points, 16 games
06) Tila, 105 points, 16 games
06) hata, 105 points, 20 games
07) *DamnRiver*, 92 points, 16 games
08) Groucho Marx, 84 points, 7 games
09) win me??, 80 points, 12 games
10) parkralle, 74 points, 6 games
11) Sherlock H, 68 points, 6 games
11) MasterG84, 68 points,9 games
12) _Fylgja, 64 points, 7 games
13) der-yogi, 59 points, 7 games
13) EXOGino, 59 points, 9 games
14) Magic22, 57 points, 8 games
15) doh, 53 points, 4 games
16) Codeman, 50 points, 4 games
17) Filmore, 46 points, 7 games
17) coldoak, 46 points, 10 games
18) gohgpobn, 44 points, 8 games
19) dulux, 39 points, 5 games
20) Laplace, 28 points, 5 games
20) LiLaLux, 28 points, 6 games
21) Peter88, 18 points, 10 games
22) Franz_Flott, 17 points, 5 games
23) Cheeeers, 14 points, 5 games
24) Lou Flush, 13 points, 4 games
all others > 4 games

Nations:
1) 29 Germany, 2) 21 homeless,fugitives,aliens?, 3) 6 Italy, 4) 5 France
5) 3 United States, 6) 1 Slovenia, Canada, DPR Korea, Iran, Maledives, Spain, Brazil, Austria, Poland

Most won games:
1) Nelly 5 games, 2) YuGo 4 games, 3) otto-a 3 games, 4) DowntheRiver, hata, Sherlock H, Emmeler, Tila, parkralle, Codeman, Groucho Marx, Magic 22 2 games,
5) der-yogi, coldoak, win me??, eduarda, doh, Filmore, dulux, Fylgja 1 game

Highest streak:
Nelly 2 ( 2 times), Tila 2, Groucho Marx 2, Magic22 2, Sherlock H 2

Subject: Re: Incredible hands ! - by: Nelly

Thu, 10 May 2012 22:00:17 +0000

YuGo,

you make me laugh too much !!!
and it feels good, we badly needed.

Ty for all your words

cu tomorrow
Nelly

Subject: Incredible hands ! - by: HUGO

Thu, 10 May 2012 21:48:07 +0000

Cucu !

I don't want to exaggerate, but, since the ranking started, i made just on my own, 7 or 8 royal flushs and saw more than 10 in other players hands.
The curious thing is that i saw more royals than straight flushs.
And the royal draws it's realy impressive the frequency that they get out.
And Kontrol, that happens.
I my self already lost with 4 Aces against Royal Flush.
A guy enter all in with AA5 in flop, i called with 4 aces and he had J 10, and he got k q in turn and river.
I lost the hand but i laughed about 30 minutes

Subject: Re: doh dances with pairs - by: Kontrol

Thu, 10 May 2012 16:21:17 +0000

Hi,
that's not so unusual as you may think....with 8 players left myself lost an all in hand with Four of a Kind (JJJJ at the turn) beating a flush, a straight and being beaten by a Spades Royal Flush....
Bye

Subject: Re: poker game "mise en abyme" - by: win me??

Thu, 10 May 2012 09:58:23 +0000

we try

Subject: poker game "mise en abyme" - by: Nelly

Thu, 10 May 2012 09:41:09 +0000

Dear win me??

It's been a long time we play here,
since the beginning of the ranking games (3 years?), you are among the best here.
for your honor, i can add that:
You never changed speudo combining the good and bad games.
Few here are in this case: you, Alfa1, Mavernick, ...
Therefore, it is not skills that are contested.
Now,
Please, may be can we all stop this poker game placed into abyss in the forum!!!

merci.

Nelly

Subject: Re: WEEKEND CUP - by: win me??

Thu, 10 May 2012 08:47:46 +0000

we should

Subject: Re: WEEKEND CUP - by: LiLaLux

Thu, 10 May 2012 08:24:13 +0000

DownTheRiver wrote:

WE CUP 37 - 21:00 - 09/05/2012

1 Nelly
2 DowntheRiver hand 115
3 Groucho Marx hand 100
4 LiLaLux hand 99
5 Maytsch hand 93
6 Max_ hand 92
7 EXOGino hand 87
8 crumblr hand 33
9 _Fylgja hand 23
10 win me??

Tila wrote:

WE CUP 38 - 23:30 - 09/05/2012

1) Tila
2) Fylgja hand 142
3) Harpo Marx hand 134
4) EXOGino hand 131 (corrected the places 3 and 4)
5) Max_ hand 101
6) LiLaLux hand 78
7) Irrr hand 73
8) otto-a hand 35
9) Magic22 hand 19
10) not present

sorry for the forgotten hands 1. - 3., too much concentration,lol

Pardon, but both WEC-games are in one file.
Game 2 starts line 3493. Maybe hata aka filer can divide these in the pdb-file. Ohterwise i would have done.

Subject: Re: Aw: WEC 36 FRIDAY CUP - by: Tila

Wed, 09 May 2012 23:27:06 +0000

WE CUP 38 - 23:30 - 09/05/2012

1) Tila
2) Fylgja hand 142
3) Harpo Marx hand 134
4) EXOGino hand 131
5) Max_ hand 101
6) LiLaLux hand 78
7) Irrr hand 73
8) otto-a hand 35
9) Magic22 hand 19
10) not present

sorry for the forgotten hands 1. - 3., too much concentration,lol
Hope LiLaLux can post the log files

Subject: peacemaker - by: DowntheRiver

Wed, 09 May 2012 22:50:58 +0000

Hi Yogi

well then i consider your "peace reminder" as a general ooommmmm

and not related with your generous conversation with win me?? in the lobby.

His uncollegial appearance you can study not just between the lines here.

According to keep the peace win me?? is not playing here anymore.

Punkt

I enjoyed the game today a lot, Nelly is incredible

Hope to join the family on Friday.

Subject: Re: WEEKEND CUP - by: der-yogi

Wed, 09 May 2012 22:36:38 +0000

Hi DowntheRiver,

I do not know anything about what happened nor do I want to know anything about it.

But I know there was a need for a reminder.

90 % of perfection is quite enough.

Enjoy the game

Subject: Aw: WEC 36 FRIDAY CUP - by: DowntheRiver

Wed, 09 May 2012 22:29:00 +0000

WE CUP 37 - 21:00 - 09/05/2012

1 Nelly
2 DowntheRiver
3 Groucho Marx
4 LiLaLux
5 Maytsch
6 Max_
7 EXOGino
8 crumblr
9 _Fylgja
10 win me??

Subject: Cool down - by: DowntheRiver

Wed, 09 May 2012 22:18:14 +0000

Please no big bubbles again out of nothing now!

@ der_yogi

i fully agree with our points about respect, harmony and politenes, you

might find them in my terms of conversation happening.

But before you judge its been helpfull to collect some information, and then

come to a opinion or judgement. I wished win me?? would ever try this too....

I did ignore his recent posts a few days ago and gave him a good will bonus.

I tried to make him able to play final on friday and made a big mess out of

the original final date. He is used to express himself overated and calls it

all funny in the end. But after all its been hidden or open insults.

Well, i let him go on.

Tonight i just told him not to invite players himself and i am not going to

explain again why we introduced this rule for a better performance.

All i did was telling him to stop this, which of course is caused by his

lack of information. Thats the whole story, i got 8 other players who

witnessed the same and we all was wondering about the reaction.

So question is: who is overacting and insulting whom?

I am not wasting my energy anymore on this subject this case is closed.

Call me dominant, there are more important things to take care off.

I started this to get rid off the kindergarden.

peace

DtR

Subject: Re: WEEKEND CUP - by: filer

Wed, 09 May 2012 21:45:33 +0000

It was obvious who were you talking about and you are still doing it.
Please have a courage to say it directly or not at all.
And dear sounds a little bit sarcastic to me.

Cheers, filer.

Subject: Re: WEEKEND CUP - by: der-yogi

Wed, 09 May 2012 21:37:38 +0000

Dear filer,

My last post is a reminder for everyone playing WEC.

Everyone is asked to behave in a friendly way while playing WEC.

Good players would play for money, good players would not shout on others, good players would win the game regardless of their opponents.

Subject: Re: politeness WEC - by: filer

Wed, 09 May 2012 21:09:44 +0000

I think you both have forgotten who started with the WEC cup. It was the Downtheriver, ...

And you should both take your own advice. Think before you write.
Now you are not acting like gentlemen at all. Especially win me??
Who is insulting who now? Do you even think before you write?
Try to cool down and always try to address others directly when you are talking about them. And especially be precise with your statements.

False politeness cracks me up.

Skill restriction is there for a good reason.

Cheers, filer.

Subject: Re: Time for new ranking points? - by: PokerThief

Wed, 09 May 2012 20:59:13 +0000

Bluffer wrote:

Yes for sure there is something wrong in the ranking system. I had appr 150 and won a game ( i e number 1 ) my ranking then was 152 (!!!!) wow !

Start a new system ! Every player gets 100.000 $ .
Playing a tour will cost 10K $ . ONLY the top 3 get money ( as an example 50K to number 1 and 30K to number 2 and 20K to number 3.) All others loose 10K each.
In this way ( as with real money ) you have the best player with the highest amount of money.
no matter if you play 100 times a week or 1 time a month.
and btw - its a good training place.

I agree - that's a very good suggestion.

Subject: Re: IGNORE FUNCTION FOR FORUM - by: doitux

Wed, 09 May 2012 20:40:59 +0000

Sorry i cannot find this feature in the forum configuration panel. This is a kunena board. When i google "kunena ignore feature" i got something like this:
www.kunena.org/forum/119-Feature-Request...e-User-Feature#48332

Subject: politeness WEC - by: der-yogi

Wed, 09 May 2012 20:34:45 +0000

Tila wrote:

7) Not least the players stats should be important for a wec qualification, also a humorous way to the others, respect, politeness,...aso. I know some good players with nice stats here, but with a bad character. The cup don`t need rotten eggs.

I agree: respect and politeness must be important to select players. It is much more important than nice stats. We do not need players who like to correct the english or start shouting on other after they had lost a good hand.

I hope all participant will be able to reflect - thank you.

Subject: Re: Aw: Live Streaming - experience wanted ! - by: win me??

Wed, 09 May 2012 19:53:11 +0000

we will

Subject: Re: my ranking is wrong - by: der-yogi

Wed, 09 May 2012 19:36:14 +0000

Hi Admins,

ranking seems to be wrong calculated:

der-yogi played 3 games but only 2 are shown and counted on "Current Season Statistics"

rdebug played 5 games but only 3 are shown and counting is wrong.

Subject: Re: Aw: Live Streaming - experience wanted ! - by: Grokly

Wed, 09 May 2012 19:13:13 +0000

DowntheRiver wrote:

Grokly for the american tables president, good nomination YuGo!
Grokly what do you think?

Thank you all for the kind words and I am honored to be asked.

Being a regular admin of a cup tournament takes more than the desire to do it. It also takes the ability to commit to being available at the scheduled time(s).

I do not think I can promise that at this time. My real life obligations are in flux. But I WILL think about it and get back to you DtR.

Subject: Re: Slowmotion Poker - by: DamnRiver

Wed, 09 May 2012 19:07:52 +0000

Same probs
Btw: Wellcome back der-yogi

Subject: Re: Slowmotion Poker - by: der-yogi

Wed, 09 May 2012 18:44:08 +0000

Hi admins,

maybe after 4 weeks of not playing I am not patient anymore, but I seems the server is responding very slow - please check it and give a note - thank you.

der-yogi: is the server slow ? or is it my client only ?
rdebug: i got some freeze too, probably the server
der-yogi: thx
Powerfrau: der server ist lahm
-PMS-: yes i also got lagg

Subject: Re: doh dances with pairs - by: Nelly

Wed, 09 May 2012 18:25:43 +0000

hi doh,

do not misunderstand my intentions,

You may notice that my post is not on the thread of WECup.
And on the contrary, it is because you showed us some of your "very nice hands" that the log files makes sense. I hope that programmers will look at this crazy distribution of the game.

I noticed also that this kind of phenomenon was more common on the tables under 10 players...

Ready for a nice final doh, Tila and I will dance with wolves,
not need streaming!

cu on final, have a good evening
Nelly

Subject: IGNORE FUNCTION FOR FORUM - by: DowntheRiver

Wed, 09 May 2012 17:44:49 +0000

I repeat my post because of placing it in the wrong category:

Dear pokerth team

we hope you can fulfill us this tiny feature request?

A important tool in most of all forums is the ignore function
Nobody is deleted, but i can individually determine posts of trolls not showing up in the thread of my interest. It would be very helpful if you could implement this feature as you did in the lobby for the same reason.

The alternative would be to find a psychological help hotline for insects.

Thank you in advance and still hoping for some feedback
DowntheRiver

Subject: rolled up like sushi :-) - by: DowntheRiver

Wed, 09 May 2012 17:39:35 +0000

Ladies & Gentleman you witnessed a beautiful tough summary of a to-do-list by a well trained effectivly focused women working in gastronomy business.

There is not much to add though i like to point out 20.00h tables have to start in time for second train not to be late. (Blindraise 22 hands create about a 2 hours game).

I am positive that our player pool is growing for a friendly group of 50 exellent players soon with this all in mind. Thanks god we can use our brains and hearts to welcome personally most of this new players and some prove anyway that they do not belong in here. bbbzz

The live streaming I propose for the finals only, but lets test it before.

Cu Wed players at 20.45

Subject: Re: Incredible hands ! - by: Tila

Wed, 09 May 2012 17:30:23 +0000

Btw zuzzurellone,
a nice idea to start this thread. Hope to see more incredible things around pokerth. And plz, no spam, just funny things....

Tila

Subject: Re: Incredible hands ! - by: Tila

Wed, 09 May 2012 17:06:49 +0000

A really fortunate coincidence, suitable for the content of this thread :
What are the odds to get a royal flush?
Estimates range from 0,00015 % (pokerworld24) up to 0,003232 % (wiki).
I`ve got three here on pokerth. That`s nothing special, because i`ve played enough games.
A few month ago i`ve played a game with der-yogi, he will remember this
Game 1, hand 31, Tila shows royal flush, Tila wins 9.800
As i said, nothing special, just a nice hand,....but....
the next game at the next day i`ve got a royal flush again!
It`s very curious and i think this will never happen again.

Tila

Subject: Re: doh dances with pairs - by: doh

Wed, 09 May 2012 16:54:35 +0000

as i already said in the game - i must admit it was pretty ridiculous - especially the pocket rockets in 2 successive hands (78/79).
the randomness of dealt hands was already critized various times in the forum, but was always refused by programmers.
anyway - i actually can't remember i had that much pockets ever before.
it was a good game though. and it tought me something:
not to show my hands again in the future

Nelly, i also remember an april's cup game you've had pocket kings all over the place. any logs for that one, too ?

Subject: doh dances with pairs - by: Nelly

Wed, 09 May 2012 16:22:14 +0000

We have dreamed it, doh did it!

K♠,K♦(Hand: 1) K♠,A♠(Hand: 58) A♦,A♥(Hand: 62) K♥,K♦(Hand: 68) A♣,A♦ (Hand: 78) A♦,A♥ (Hand: 79) K♣,A♣ (Hand: 80)  A♥,A♦ (Hand: 86)
7♦,7♠ (Hand: 108)   K♠,K♦( Hand: 112)    J♣,J♦(Hand: 142) 9♣,9♦(Hand: 148) 2♠,2♥(Hand: 151) 7♣,7♥(Hand: 159) T♦,T♠(Hand: 163) Q♦,Q♠(Hand: 171)

Attached
a quick summary for fun (pdf)
and the original log: txt file, htlm and pdb.

Nelly

Subject: Re: Synchronization bug? - by: patito

Wed, 09 May 2012 15:44:36 +0000

Hi

I have uploaded the log. I didn't know what information is in the log file, but here it is anyway

Thanks for your help.

Subject: Re: Admins, we need your advice for Live Streaming - by: Tila

Wed, 09 May 2012 14:17:07 +0000

Hi cuppers,
live streaming is an interesting approach to develop the wec idea, but it should not be the main objective of the cup community. There are other problems which should be solved first.
1) First of all the cup needs a constant pool or stack of 30 or more players, which are reliable concerning to the rules of the cup. When 10 players signed the doodle and some of those can not play, they must sign out the latest one hour before the game starts. The doodle must be the ticket for the cup game, it makes it easier for the table admins. To search in doodle- or forum posts is an additional effort and pure waste of time.
2) Care should be taken that the players know as early as possible who are the table admins.
3) We should not play a cup table with 3 signed players and fill up with others (20:00 table). Too much time for searching good players, the game will start too late. It`s better to play a ranking game and wait for the 22:00 table.
4) The 22:00 table should not start before the 20:00 table is finished. Some players will play both tables.
5) When players break the cup rules again and again, they should be warned; the last consequence must be a disqualification. We need more discipline when the cup community expands.
6) Some players are only interested to play ranking games, they need to see their name in a "best of"-list May be a permanent wec-rank (glicko2?) is useful to get more players here, a special thread only for this?
7) Not least the players stats should be important for a wec qualification, also a humorous way to the others, respect, politeness,...aso. I know some good players with nice stats here, but with a bad character. The cup don`t need rotten eggs.
8) Looking across the "big pond" is a good idea to get more players from America and Asia. I remember "Grokly`s house of cards" with some good players, almost a fascinating, respectful and humorous table.
@ Grokly, jinks, otto-a : may be you can ask sgtspector, "river"-rabbit, beefjerky or some others to join the cup games. I´m sure we`ll find a table admin; i`ll look in the asian time zone for some candidates.
The points noted above (and some others) should be a prerequisite before we`ll start with live streaming. I think the big final of all monthly winners is the right time. With live streaming we`ll get a higher attention, everything must be perfect up to this time. When it works, we can think about monthly live streaming.
@ DowntheRiver, Nelly, YuGo :
Thank you for your private messages, i don`t forget and answer you asap.
Too much work these days

Tila

Subject: Re: Synchronization bug? - by: John Johnson

Wed, 09 May 2012 14:08:19 +0000

I too had the same problem two days ago. The synchronization error occurred before the beginning of the game, and the pdb file is not created. The game is: www.poker-heroes.com/gameresult.html?Game_ID=68490.

Subject: Admins, we need your advice for Live Streaming - by: Codeman

Wed, 09 May 2012 12:00:03 +0000

Hi all.

I want to make a request for advice to Admins (LuisCypher, doitux) or for who can know the answer.

We are playing a cup-tournament called initially 'Weekend Cup' or 'WEC', actually with more than 25 players:
www.doodle.com/59x5rufad39y9vag

Last weekend we played the April Semifinals, 2 tables of 6 players, being qualified for the final of this weekend the players 1st-2nd-3rd of each table.
We would like that the final table could be broadcast-streamed online.
I told to the players about the great experience of the Live Streaming of '2010 Xmas Cup Final Table':
www.poker-heroes.com/videos/livestream.html

Is it possible actually? can we live-broadcast the April Final Table?
Please, can you explain the steps to do this [Program-ConnectionRequirements-Etc.]?
The steps that I know:
> With the Live-Streaming program (I don't know wich one program is the best to use) define a window on desktop where the game window is located.
> Select in Poker TH Settings -> "Interface" -> "Show own cards only on mouse click".
> Stablish Connection with Live-Streaming Server.
> To prevent that other players can watch your own hand there are 2-3 additional measures:
a) Move, during some seconds, the game window out of the defined-broadcasted-window to check your cards with mouse clic.
b) Stablish a delayed time to broadcast the game, maybe 4-5 mins would be the best for the usual game of 12 sec.

Thank you very much for your help.
And greetings for the new team members (Poker need patience and steel nerves, and development too , don't worry about forum complaints about speed or server issues, the well done job is the one made little by little and is only appreciated with the judgment of time).
I read that 'Ankkah' is no more on Poker TH team, I played with him at '2012-Cup' and he is a good player, with patience and wise decisions, I wish the best for him for his future projects, I want to say a big thanks for his work and his support.

More things:
> Here 'DowntheRiver' request about a new feature related with the option to invite players to games and the Live-View feature too:
www.pokerth.net/forum/15-features-reques...dividual-stacks.html
> 'Emmeler' proposed to use the Team-Speak. Nice suggestion

HUGO wrote:

Another PS: Do that Codeman, and i will special deliver you all my chips, a bottle and a cup...not for this necessary order...first i make you drunk...perhaps you forget the chip part...

Hehehehehe, thanks HUGO, drinks+chips mmmmm, but I have a better idea sssssshhhh, we can distribute the bottles among the players, maybe this might be the only way to win them , I will add some relaxing music and zzzzzzzzzz, ready fot the heist¡¡¡

See you at games.

Subject: Re: Synchronization bug? - by: doitux

Wed, 09 May 2012 11:09:12 +0000

The pdb file extension is enabled now. Please test again if it works now.

Subject: Re: Synchronization bug? - by: Codeman

Wed, 09 May 2012 10:45:46 +0000

Hi patito and zes.

I think there are several problems with different reasons mixed: Synchronzation / Old-Versions / C++ Libraries / Resources-Program conflicts / Etc.
But personally I don't think that is related with the Poker TH program, I believe the reasons are external: internet speed, flow & available resources (for example play and see a video at same time (or download things) can produce lag and sync problems) / operative systems / compatibility issues with other softwares, etc...

Some days ago I wrote a post about the different Poker TH problems. You can read it here:
www.pokerth.net/component/kunena/14-bugs...94-crashed.html#9783

And the last year I gave some links to try to solve the problem related with C++ Libraries [NOTE: It's possible that new updated Libraries versions 2011-2012 can be available]:
www.pokerth.net/forum/14-bugs/7652-09-be...=6&start=12#7672

patito wrote:

Failed to upload file 'pokerth-log-2012-05-08_18.42.41.pdb': You need to use an allowed file extension (for images: jpg, jpeg, gif, png and other files: zip, txt, doc, gz, tgz).

How can I upload the log?

The log-file only gives you info about the game (cards, hands, players...) but not about the program performance, but thank you for your intention to improve and help.
If you want to attach files with size over 100Kb you can use compressed files and put them in some online-free-uploader-service and share the link for people can download them.

I hope this can be helpful for you.

See you at games. Enjoy is the most important

PS: Please, report other bugs or problems in the "Bug" Section of forum, thanks

Subject: Aw: Live Streaming - experience wanted ! - by: DowntheRiver

Wed, 09 May 2012 09:57:17 +0000

HUGO wrote:

Glad you are back and can't wait to make fun about the spot that did'nt got a tan, because you keep forgoting to take the bottle on top of your chest!
Cupholders der-yogi, never forget to take it along with you

rofl, our clown got his inspiration main figure back

Grokly for the american tables president, good nomination YuGo!
Grokly what do you think?

Live Streaming of a pokergame/ some problems to solve

1.One player in the game has to supply the software and the good connection capacity. (required streaming capacity ?)

2. This player will be handicaped hiding his cards every hand first in order not to reveal it to the rest of the table. Is this happening automatically? Or we install a 5 min delay from live, but still then the streaming player reveal all his cards. Example: www.poker-heroes.com/videos/livestream.html

In the upcoming final (6 players) would be easy to place am extra passive player on the table, but his seating affects the game by his SB/ BB.
So I do not see an easy solution on the long term.

Any players who own experience with the subject "livestreaming poker game"?
I tried already pokerth, no response so far:
www.pokerth.net/forum/15-features-reques...dividual-stacks.html

we`ll pass that river all together.

thx DtR

Subject: Re: Synchronization bug? - by: zes

Wed, 09 May 2012 08:07:03 +0000

Same here. And again this has resulted in a 'double game' where my ghost player probably was afk the whole time. Result: 1 game ranked 10th. Not too big a deal but please fix this.

Errors i can remember:
1) Not all players use the same version of Pokerth. Sync error.
2) Application crash, but cannot remember the message.

Subject: Re: Synchronization bug? - by: patito

Wed, 09 May 2012 01:45:00 +0000

Subject: Synchronization bug? - by: patito

Wed, 09 May 2012 01:44:19 +0000

Hi

Today I was trying to play and I got a synchronization error, don't remember the exact message but I have attached the log.

Hope this helps to improve pokerth.

Thanks for the hard work guys!

Subject: Live Streaming - by: HUGO

Tue, 08 May 2012 22:52:55 +0000

Hi all

First comes first.

der-yogiiiii welcome back !
I see you got a beautifull tan.
And you are absolutly right.
There is a life beyond poker, but you have to agree in one thing.
Life is even magical if you can add poker in it.
Glad you are back and can't wait to make fun about the spot that did'nt got a tan, because you keep forgoting to take the bottle on top of your chest!
Cupholders der-yogi, never forget to take it along with you

@DowntheRiver : Good idea for giving the opportunity to American players, and players all over the globe, for those that are interstead, more chances to participate.
Not easy to combine in a table people all over the world, so big cheer for your idea.
About your candidates, i bless them all, and could bless another...Grokly...a well known and respectable player here in PokerTh.

@ Codeman : I did'nt forgot the idea from your table for start streaming our matches.
I talk to DowntheRiver, and he suffers from the same problem as me.
I suppose he is from the same generation as i am, that when we wanted to listen some music we had to carry with a big stereo with 2 metters long on our shoulder.
So internet is not my thing either and God knows how am i able to start a post here
But i do remember that you mention on a software program.
If you manage to do that we both will be in eternal gratitude.
It would be a bigger chalenge see 5 minutes after how big we got bluffed or how stupid we feel for letting go a valid hand
And even a bigger challenge trying to read that same opponent after a major bluff.
Unfortunally i will not have much time to play the next days, so the only way i can reach you is trough here and not trough the software, so i look forward for your feedback.
Is it possible for we to start streaming ?
Can you do it with a program ?
Can you teach us how master? eheh
Would be a big step ahead.
Thank you in advance Codeman

PS: What it depends on me we are here to solve the problems you mention in mail DowntheRiver.
As far as i am concern, after playing the games here with you all, full of fun moments, and time well spend,with some realy skill players, all of them with theyr own style i don't imagine my self going back so soon to average ranking tables where callers, compulsive raisers, all inners, and realy rude people , what should be a pleasant, and competitive game,make me wanting to click lobby button almost every time, is a constant.
So my guess is, with a important contribution from all that realy enjoy this games, we come to stay.

@ Emmeler : The team speack is also a great idea.
We should discusse that too

Once again my special thx to DowntheRiver,*DamnRiver,Nelly,Tila,Emmeler,hata,Codeman and all the others that make this possible, your ideas are never too much.

Another PS: Do that Codeman, and i will special deliver you all my chips, a bottle and a cup...not for this necessary order...first i make you drunk...perhaps you forget the chip part...

Cheers and stay out of the sun kids

Subject: Wanted: Table admin from western world - by: DowntheRiver

Tue, 08 May 2012 21:22:34 +0000

hi Cuppers

In order to give our American friends (South and North America) a better chance to join us regulary in the WEC games we are searching for a reliable table admin for this time zone to take care of late night games. We could extend our WEC doodle like am 3.00 (UTC time +2) in the morning European time. This would provide some European night owles the chance to challenge and meet other continents.

Candidats could be:

edward (come on, you are a pioneer here!)
jinks (we are you anyway?)
otto-a (if you like)

further suggestions?

Your responsibilty as reliable table admin would be:

- Be in time for opening the table
- Invite according the doodle priority
- check the qualification and stats of new players
- stay in the game until last hand in order to provide the logfiles
- post the result of the game in our WEC results thread

Come on America, we like to have a World championship of pokerth soon!

cheers
Downtheriver

Subject: Kicks ! - by: HUGO

Tue, 08 May 2012 20:38:54 +0000

Hi Pokerth developers.

It is not the first time that it happens, but when we receive 2 invitations for the same table, from two different players, we end it up getting kick.

Thank you very much for all doitux

Cheers

Subject: Welcome to WEC new players! - by: DowntheRiver

Tue, 08 May 2012 20:01:56 +0000

Hi Nelly,

ok lets forget about this strange game, made just trouble.
We are learning something new every week

A warm welcome from our fancy team to Maytsch & crumblr, players with a nice long tradition in pokerth, hope to play you soon in WEC!

And a big cheer and welcome back to our yogi, we missed you and can´t wait
to have your oooooms in the games. 5 weeks, respect, you must be a hungry shark now!

Come on good players out there, click the first page of this thread, make a quick check of the rules and join us here:

www.doodle.com/59x5rufad39y9vag

Tila and Nelly, you got some mail!

Subject: Re: WEEKEND CUP - by: der-yogi

Tue, 08 May 2012 19:41:09 +0000

Hi all,

der-yogi is back in town

following the thread, I see you had a lot of fun.

Last 4 weeks I could find out there is a life beyond the poker table really this life exists.

But the first thing I did after arrival was to start a game

Looking forward to meet you next weekend.

Subject: Re: Aw: WEEKEND CUP - by: Nelly

Tue, 08 May 2012 18:52:51 +0000

Hi folks,
hi DtR,

unable to retrieve results of "obscure ghost" friday cup game, better is to forget it ...

Welcome Maytsch & crumblr !

Have a good evening all, cu
SMILE

Nelly

P.S.: I found this doodle's presentation more practical and more meaningful, good idea DtR(as usual).

Subject: All Time-Rank-O-Meter - by: Epinikion

Tue, 08 May 2012 15:27:11 +0000

Hello.
I have a problem with my All Time-Rank-O-Meter.
I played 27 Games in the Previous Season and 37 Games in the Current Season.
That´s 64 Games total.
The All Time-Rank-O-Meter only counts 56 Games, so 8 Games are missing.
Will this Problem be fixed?

Thank You.

Subject: Re: Time for new ranking points? - by: Bobito

Tue, 08 May 2012 09:03:01 +0000

Heads up and full ring are qualitatively different games. There are players who are excellent at one and mediocre at the other. The same for tournament play versus normal play. The PokerTh play structure favors players who are good at tournaments and good at heads up. These are not necessarily the best players in other contexts. For example, at the end of a typical game there have been played 40 or 50 hands and the blinds are quite large in relation to the remaining stacks. To win it is necessary to play a sort of high variance style that would be suboptimal in normal play.

On the other hand, the ranking system rewards a nitty player who plays only to survive to the last 3. There are many such players who are highly ranked. They are decent players, but how good are they? It's not clear. The rankings say they are good. It depends what the objective is. Here there is no money at stake - so the goal is to get ranked highly - in this sense they are playing a style well adapted to the goals, so have to be considered good.

Subject: Re: ELO & Poker - by: Nelly

Tue, 08 May 2012 07:29:14 +0000

hi Maytsch,

this message has nothing to do with the subject, but, in this way, I'd be sure you read my message,
I even do not know if I've played against you, it is nice to have seen your nick sign the doodle of WEC.

So, welcome!
Have good games here.

Nelly

P.S :for security open your own account with exact player name
www.doodle.com/mydoodle/open.html?linkSource=LoginWind

Subject: Aw: WEEKEND CUP - by: DowntheRiver

Mon, 07 May 2012 10:08:00 +0000

Still missing this obscure ghost WEC game from last friday.
Who was playing, who can post the resuslts?

Subject: Re: THE FINAL APRIL WEC - by: Nelly

Sun, 06 May 2012 23:13:13 +0000

hi dear cuppers ,

Here are the results of April CUP WINNERS 1/2FINAL A

1 doh
2 YuGo
3 Nelly
4 dulux
5 hata
6 Filmore

BRAVO doh!

Attached txt file, htlm and pdb

Bonne nuit,
Nelly

Subject: THE FINAL APRIL WEC - by: DowntheRiver

Sun, 06 May 2012 23:04:19 +0000

We played today 2 x 6 players table Semifinal, the qualificants for the final table are:
YuGo, Nelly, doh, otto-a, Codeman, Tila. Congrats.

Only this qualificants please sign here for the final:
www.doodle.com/uw8ddn6nng2z5g2y

I did move Groucho Marx (we waited 40 mins for you, sry couldn´t be longer)
and win me?? on the May Winners Final Doodle because not being able to play.

May Cups winners sign in here:
www.doodle.com/gfc77rk7avayfr62

Dont forget to fix your dooodle account!

Finally there is a final

Subject: Re: PokerTH 0.9.4 crashed - by: xanax

Sun, 06 May 2012 18:40:02 +0000

Once again. I have just got the same error and crash. :-/

Subject: Final Tonight - by: DowntheRiver

Sun, 06 May 2012 18:23:31 +0000

Liebe Tila,
es wäre klasse wenn du wie vorgeschlagen heute ab 21.45 zur Verfügung stehst, falls wir 2 Tische haben (12 spieler). Ich setzte dich dann entsprechend deines Wunsches Ansonsten spielst du im Mai Finale.

In case of 2 tables (best of 3) tonight we draw a seating in alphabetcial order.

Looking forward

Subject: Re: Aw: Countdown logo / banner for upcoming events - by: Nelly

Sun, 06 May 2012 15:47:02 +0000

bonjour xanax,

quelle classe !
trop beau
Merci bien,

Nelly

...dernière nouvelle : good move à l'Elysée... mdr... ça mérite un cigare

Subject: Re: Aw: Countdown logo / banner for upcoming events - by: xanax

Sun, 06 May 2012 15:21:44 +0000

If LuisCypher accepts this logo, it could look like this :

Subject: Re: Aw: Countdown logo / banner for upcoming events - by: texas_outlaw

Sat, 05 May 2012 22:02:40 +0000

Bravo!

Subject: Re: Aw: Countdown logo / banner for upcoming events - by: xanax

Sat, 05 May 2012 18:40:13 +0000

Ladies and gentlemen, Weekend-Cuppers...
Here it is : link

To test it, you change your system date and time. Then you'll notice that the cigar gets shorter as the remaining time is close or not.

I know, it's not the signature banner you're looking for. Sorry, I have no clue how to do this.

But at least, you can now have a nice animated logo that will (I hope) be on the front page of Poker-heroes.com for big tournaments and events.

Bye !

Subject: Aw: WEEKEND CUP - by: DowntheRiver

Sat, 05 May 2012 16:46:05 +0000

„Ceci n'est pas une pipe.“

Don`t waste energy filer, he was explained this several times in the forum - quality needs time. There are people out there who carry wisdom beyond our horizon. ups, not enough smilies to support the sarcasm here

Regardless frustration i will try to answer serious or really funny posts:

The ranking quest by Groucho:

Why do we plan for a later Ranking system? Just because its a "nice to have" and we are lucky for hata working on a sufficent one - as Yugo explained. Some want- some dont- thats all. Beside, poker has always been competitive. Why is there a winner in a poker game anyway? Why do you have records in sport? Why do you climb mountains? Why making babies? ok, no populism. ^^

Right, i make myself stand in the corner and shame dulux - we will have a deep drag on the pipe, could you please pass some more ingredients and instead John Denver i prefer good old Jimmy please.

Subject: Re: Aw: WEEKEND CUP - by: filer

Sat, 05 May 2012 15:57:36 +0000

win me?? could you please try and write in such a way that everyone is able to understand you? Even now i do not know what you meant to say with any certainty. Smiles do not help and just try to write in whole sentences.
It will help to avoid future misunderstandings greatly.

Timing of the games is just right for the players to show their true skill, about two hours. I would never change that and we cannot adapt to every time zone.

Cheers, filer.

Subject: Re: Aw: WEEKEND CUP - by: dulux

Sat, 05 May 2012 15:22:16 +0000

Just to clarify, a wise woman

dulux passes the peace pipe to YuGo who inturn passes it to the left

Now guys, don't make me post a john denver song

Subject: Re: Aw: WEEKEND CUP - by: win me??

Sat, 05 May 2012 15:19:03 +0000

hi friends hi downtheriver
i didnt say that u r liar ...ohohoh...
u r Hard in the wrong my friend ...
i am a Humorous person here all know me.
but i told ur mistake was very funny that coulnot see us in other cup
accept that my friend
see downtheriver; we havenot 2 player in friday and 3 player in sunday??????
ok????? then we could play in friday and that was better and more wisely yes or no??????
but i told u thanks thanks for ur effort in last post
i think it is better we respect to vote's players in the doodle table and more players choosed friday
but no problem you decided for it and i respect to it
i like that we play with more players in cup ...we need invite all good players for playing at wecups. when i talk with others(nady or grokly or ....)
about that...they cannot play with us because that time is long . itold it last time but again i prefer say this problem for all.then i think it is better we chang cup's time because exist players that are very good and we need play with them too
ofc i think we need a ranking for cup too ...ty yugo
see yugo; i wasnot mad for missing a cup
you knoe me very well ugly monk
i have a problem with one person that i hope he try respect others more more.
i hope see tila with us ... i kiss u tila because i hate you
i hope u enjoy final in sunday and and and i hope yugo get 10th
i have a big award for yugo's killer
see u in wednesday
kiss all with a big hugs
bb

Subject: Re: Aw: WEEKEND CUP - by: HUGO

Sat, 05 May 2012 14:39:27 +0000

Groucho Marx wrote:

You are!

That's why I have to ask again:

Why do we need a ranking for WEC?????????????????

cu

Hi Groucho Marx
I created another treath here in the forum, just to put the scores, not because of the ranking, but with the only porpuse of helping us know who is going to play the final tables, as i talked to DowntheRiver before the ranking idea, about posting the results.
I saw 2 players that signed the Final tables, and i lost 25 minutes searching here in this post, to know exactly the games they won or if they already had play with us.
My final answer was no.They did'nt.
And answering to your question if we need a ranking system for us, my answer is no, we do not.
But it would be nice to know the nº of hands we won, lost, the agressiveness, or the tight game we do here.
That help us to improve, know the mistakes we do.
I don't know what kind of work filer is doing right now, or if it possible to know this details with the logs that we send him, so i will wait and see.

Regardeless that people are mad just because they could'nt get in in tables, let me remind that last week i asked here in this same post who was able to do a late game that day.
Groucho Marx, win me??, and Nelly answered afirmative to my question, and thx again for doing so, but, i did'nt saw anyone waiting for me for that same game.
Did i get mad?
No and i did'nt had the right.
Instead i come here and said that i should had said the beggining time for that same table.
I learned from my mistake and i will remember everytime i ask someone to have a game.
Never forget the time
Everytime we get mad, for every setback that we will have, this is doom to fail.
Like i said before lets all be patients, everyone have the moral obligation of at least doing theyr best for things to go well, because we all have a part on this and this is for US.
Exposed the problems to DowntheRiver? Yes and we should.
Get mad with him, despite he trys his best? That's wrong.

dulux wrote :

How about we all forgive,forget,take a chill pill,pass the peace pipe around and remember why we all play the cup in the first place?

dulux, you are a wise man.

Cheers

Subject: Re: Aw: WEEKEND CUP - by: filer

Sat, 05 May 2012 12:34:11 +0000

Because it is more fun like that ?
Why even play if you cannot see if you improved or not ?
Ranking would be just an objective way to measure the players skill ?

But that is just me.

Cheers, filer.

Subject: Re: Aw: WEEKEND CUP - by: Groucho Marx

Sat, 05 May 2012 11:45:11 +0000

HUGO wrote:

Can we please relax all?
I don't think that anyone here start joining this games for awards, or prizes of any kind.
Just the simple pleasure of doing great games, learning from each of one of us have to offer, improving, and spending pleasant times at the poker table.
Am i correct?

You are!

That's why I have to ask again:

Why do we need a ranking for WEC?????????????????

cu

Subject: April CUP - time to pass the peace pipe around - by: dulux

Sat, 05 May 2012 10:15:43 +0000

Hi, DtR, and all

Sorry, thought I had signed up to the cup when you asked but looks liked it didn't save. All signed up now though and hopefully not too late! From reading the last few posts, seems things have gotten a bit hot under the collar.

Without body language and tone of voice, it's pretty easy to take the wrong meaning from a post, just as easy as it is to jump into action mode and get a game started that is running late, accidentally forgetgin to wait for others.

No one wants to be sitting around the cup table in silence because half the table aren't talking to each other for one reason or another. No one is perfect and we all make the same mistakes.

How about we all forgive, forget, take a chill pill, pass the peace pipe around and remember why we all play the cup in the first place?

Subject: WEC 36 FRIDAY CUP - by: DowntheRiver

Sat, 05 May 2012 10:14:15 +0000

WE CUP 36 - 22:00 - 04/05/2012

1 Codeman
2 Laplace
3 otto-a
4 Magic22
5 DowntheRiver
6 EXOGino
7 Nelly
8 Peter88
9 hata
10 fireflya

Subject: IGNORE FUNCTION FOR FORUM - by: DowntheRiver

Sat, 05 May 2012 09:35:04 +0000

Dear pokerth team

we hope you can fulfill us this tiny feature request?

A important tool in most of all forums is the ignore function
Nobody is deleted, but i can individually determine posts of trolls not showing up in the thread of my interest. It would be very helpful if you could implement this feature as you did in the lobby for the same reason.

The alternative would be to find a psychological help hotline for insects.

Thank you in advance
DowntheRiver

Subject: Get real - by: DowntheRiver

Sat, 05 May 2012 09:20:22 +0000

win me?? wrote:

eheh
that was nice joke downtheriver
you didnt see first cup:)
win me?? groucho max .....and others too
okok lauphed a lot with it
i amnot for 5 days and hope see u soon and talk with u about cup tables more more.
have a nice final
bb

win me??

after i tried hard to give a newcomer winner a chance to play the final on Friday and messed up the fix final date of Sunday just for you (which i will never do again). Now, i can not believe your post here.

Nelly and me explained what happended even we had not to.

But now you call me twice a liar - no matter how much smilies you place behind this.
I got nothing to talk with you about WEC anymore, but here is an advice for free:

1. Try to read postings first!
2. Try to think and understand
3. Think again before you comment

Sometimes its seems to me your drunken by your own personality

Subject: Aw: WEEKEND CUP - by: DowntheRiver

Sat, 05 May 2012 09:06:00 +0000

Dear YuGo,

thank you so much for your fabolous piece of work!
The overview helps to make it easier for hata too.
Such initiatives deserve more then one karma point
and are highly appreciated by all Cuppers and WEC.
Thunmbs up for your motivating statement to call everyone one back the track.

Subject: Re: Aw: WEEKEND CUP - by: HUGO

Sat, 05 May 2012 03:00:23 +0000

Hi all.

DowntheRiver wrote:

We are in a important process right now to find our best mode,
please be all patient and try to help us to improve it.

thx for your understanding and participation.

Hi DowntheRiver and All : I created this post so that the results can be posted there, to don't get lost at the 46 pages that we have already.
I ask all the participants that want to post the results also do it here:

www.pokerth.net/forum/13-general/9809-sc...or-we-cups.html#9809

Can we please relax all?
I don't think that anyone here start joining this games for awards, or prizes of any kind.
Just the simple pleasure of doing great games, learning from each of one of us have to offer, improving, and spending pleasant times at the poker table.
Am i correct?
WEEKEND CUP is growing, more and more people is starting to join us, we already have almost 22.000 views just for this topic and Rome was'nt made in a day.
Things like this takes time and noone here can dedicate his/her full time to develope this.
So it's our responsibility as well help DowntheRiver the best we can.
And we will have more setbacks till we reach the quality in organization and other problems that might come along.
It's up to us to think what we want.
Personally i rather have the last position in every games here at WE CUP, then being 1th ten times in a row in a normal average ranking game.
So please peace, love, a lot of dancing, and most important, lets have a lot of fun playing here among our Poker mates.

Drive safelly Emmeler and don't hit the horn everytime you see a running fugitive thinking that might be me

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