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Furrball's Rules of Good NLHE Poker
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11 Jul 2017 23:03 - 11 Jul 2017 23:11 #38145
by Furrball
Here's an example where things went gloriously bad for the second stack at the table (that'd be [cough] me), who saw two queens and happily jumped into the abyss, earning himself a third-place finish and... a Darwin Award:
Game: 3 | Hand: 42
BLIND LEVEL: $400 / $800
Seat 1: Furrball ($16150)
Seat 4: Menzel ($5800)
Seat 6: x.fed! ($15500)
Seat 7: satan nub ($2900)
Seat 10: Paawo ($31400)
BLINDS: x.fed! ($400), satan nub ($800)
Menzel starts as dealer.
PREFLOP
Paawo calls $800.
Furrball bets $1600.
Menzel is all in with $5800. < - - - - - - - first player at risk!
x.fed! folds.
satan nub is all in with $2100. < - - - - - - - second player at risk!
Paawo calls $5000.
Furrball is all in with $14550. < - - - - - - - totally right move!
Paawo calls $10350.
Furrball shows [Q♣,Q♦]
Menzel shows [9♥,K♥]
satan nub shows [7♦,7♥]
Paawo shows [A♣,9♣]
FLOP [board cards 4♣,2♣,3♣] < - - - - - - - glorious defeat!
TURN [board cards 4♣,2♣,3♣,6♠]
RIVER [board cards 4♣,2♣,3♣,6♠,7♣]
Furrball has [ Q♣,Q♦] - Flush, Queen high
Menzel has [ 9♥,K♥] - High Card, King
satan nub has [ 7♦,7♥] - Three of a Kind, Sevens
Paawo has [ A♣,9♣] - Flush, Ace high
Paawo wins $41400
Furrball sits out
Menzel sits out
satan nub sits out
Furrball replied.
CHAPTER 7: HOLDING TT TO AA, SHIP IT WHATSOEVER
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This rule applies specifically to the late stages of a tournament,
when you're five-to-three-handed and the blinds are high. As you
probably know, aggressive play is always the key to success, no
matter what. So, if you're holding a big pair (say, tens to aces),
shoving all the chips into the pot from any position MUST become
a form of Pavlovian conditioning for the successful player. Don't
absolutely mind that maybe a couple other players already shipped
all their last chips and would be at risk, and that someone who's
still in the pot actually COVERS YOU and may eliminate you should
he dare calling: you'll die the fighter's death anyway, and rest in
peace, sure that nobody will ever call you a chicken. Donkeys, after
all, are a totally different taxonomic class...Here's an example where things went gloriously bad for the second stack at the table (that'd be [cough] me), who saw two queens and happily jumped into the abyss, earning himself a third-place finish and... a Darwin Award:
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Game: 3 | Hand: 42
BLIND LEVEL: $400 / $800
Seat 1: Furrball ($16150)
Seat 4: Menzel ($5800)
Seat 6: x.fed! ($15500)
Seat 7: satan nub ($2900)
Seat 10: Paawo ($31400)
BLINDS: x.fed! ($400), satan nub ($800)
Menzel starts as dealer.
PREFLOP
Paawo calls $800.
Furrball bets $1600.
Menzel is all in with $5800. < - - - - - - - first player at risk!
x.fed! folds.
satan nub is all in with $2100. < - - - - - - - second player at risk!
Paawo calls $5000.
Furrball is all in with $14550. < - - - - - - - totally right move!
Paawo calls $10350.
Furrball shows [Q♣,Q♦]
Menzel shows [9♥,K♥]
satan nub shows [7♦,7♥]
Paawo shows [A♣,9♣]
FLOP [board cards 4♣,2♣,3♣] < - - - - - - - glorious defeat!
TURN [board cards 4♣,2♣,3♣,6♠]
RIVER [board cards 4♣,2♣,3♣,6♠,7♣]
Furrball has [ Q♣,Q♦] - Flush, Queen high
Menzel has [ 9♥,K♥] - High Card, King
satan nub has [ 7♦,7♥] - Three of a Kind, Sevens
Paawo has [ A♣,9♣] - Flush, Ace high
Paawo wins $41400
Furrball sits out
Menzel sits out
satan nub sits out
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16 Jul 2017 23:11 - 16 Jul 2017 23:22 #38191
by Furrball
Here's the usual example, where one of the last two players to act (I was on the dealer, he was on the small blind) strangely held only jacks, instead of the usual two aces. Not that that'd matter because we ended up splitting the pot, as fate decided to help the poor souls in the hand by putting a straight on the board, for which the jacks' player was particularly grateful.
Game: 1 | Hand: 57
BLIND LEVEL: $1600 / $3200
Seat 1: Furrball ($31550)
Seat 2: Franzi V ($26300)
Seat 5: nart22 ($24300)
Seat 6: format C ($8000)
Seat 7: phil ($600)
Seat 8: Hawkie ($9250)
BLINDS: Franzi V ($1600), nart22 ($3200)
Furrball starts as dealer.
PREFLOP
format C calls $3200. < - - - - - limper that you don't want to be there
phil is all in with $600. < - - - - - - - all-in with last $600 worth of chips
Hawkie calls $3200. < - - - - - limper you ALSO don't want to be there
Furrball is all in with $31550. < - - - - - - - BIG all-in with largest stack
Franzi V is all in with $24700. < - - OUCH! second-largest stack calls
nart22 folds.
format C folds.
Hawkie folds.
Furrball shows [A♠,K♦] < - - - - - - - - great hand and likely the best
Franzi V shows [J♣,J♦] < - - - - - - - - except nope because... 98.7%
phil shows [K♥,Q♦] < - - - great, a king is also blocked by this hand
FLOP [board cards 7♥,5♥,4♠]
TURN [board cards 7♥,5♥,4♠,6♥]
RIVER [board cards 7♥,5♥,4♠,6♥,3♦]
Furrball has [ A♠,K♦] - Straight, Seven high
Franzi V has [ J♣,J♦] - Straight, Seven high
phil has [ K♥,Q♦] - Straight, Seven high
Furrball wins $36050 < - - - - phew, money back
Franzi V wins $30800 < - - - - dammit! money back
phil wins $1200 < - - - - yay! I've doubled up anyway!
Furrball replied.
CHAPTER 8: NEVER TRY TO ISOLATE THE ALL-IN PLAYER
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You know, probably you can find that in poker books, or find
out seeing people play on TV: if you have a very good hand
which is below aces, and someone is all in with his/her last
chips in front of you, and you have few players to call behind,
then in theory you should ALSO shove, to discourage them
from calling and stand a better chance to win the rest of the
dwindling player's chips. But, in reality, in 98.7% of cases, it
will turn out one of the few players (especially if there's just
one behind you) will have a top-tier hand like jacks or better,
most frequently two aces (even if you're holding AK and one
of the aces).Here's the usual example, where one of the last two players to act (I was on the dealer, he was on the small blind) strangely held only jacks, instead of the usual two aces. Not that that'd matter because we ended up splitting the pot, as fate decided to help the poor souls in the hand by putting a straight on the board, for which the jacks' player was particularly grateful.
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Game: 1 | Hand: 57
BLIND LEVEL: $1600 / $3200
Seat 1: Furrball ($31550)
Seat 2: Franzi V ($26300)
Seat 5: nart22 ($24300)
Seat 6: format C ($8000)
Seat 7: phil ($600)
Seat 8: Hawkie ($9250)
BLINDS: Franzi V ($1600), nart22 ($3200)
Furrball starts as dealer.
PREFLOP
format C calls $3200. < - - - - - limper that you don't want to be there
phil is all in with $600. < - - - - - - - all-in with last $600 worth of chips
Hawkie calls $3200. < - - - - - limper you ALSO don't want to be there
Furrball is all in with $31550. < - - - - - - - BIG all-in with largest stack
Franzi V is all in with $24700. < - - OUCH! second-largest stack calls
nart22 folds.
format C folds.
Hawkie folds.
Furrball shows [A♠,K♦] < - - - - - - - - great hand and likely the best
Franzi V shows [J♣,J♦] < - - - - - - - - except nope because... 98.7%
phil shows [K♥,Q♦] < - - - great, a king is also blocked by this hand
FLOP [board cards 7♥,5♥,4♠]
TURN [board cards 7♥,5♥,4♠,6♥]
RIVER [board cards 7♥,5♥,4♠,6♥,3♦]
Furrball has [ A♠,K♦] - Straight, Seven high
Franzi V has [ J♣,J♦] - Straight, Seven high
phil has [ K♥,Q♦] - Straight, Seven high
Furrball wins $36050 < - - - - phew, money back
Franzi V wins $30800 < - - - - dammit! money back
phil wins $1200 < - - - - yay! I've doubled up anyway!
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01 Aug 2017 23:15 #38336
by KYFHO
This applies to live MTT play.
I have heard this both ways, try to isolate a player to get their chips, you are after trying to get every player's chips.
I have also heard not to do it, specifically around the bubble. The more players in a hand the better chance to knock out the all-in player and get closer to breaking the bubble.
KYFHO replied.
Furrball wrote: NEVER TRY TO ISOLATE THE ALL-IN PLAYER
This applies to live MTT play.
I have heard this both ways, try to isolate a player to get their chips, you are after trying to get every player's chips.
I have also heard not to do it, specifically around the bubble. The more players in a hand the better chance to knock out the all-in player and get closer to breaking the bubble.
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