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11 Sep 2017 12:03 - 11 Sep 2017 12:05 #38665 by Emmeler
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Two players found their way back to WeC:
Dusch Lampe ( 9 games between 12.05.2013 and 19.11.2016)
MasterG84 (275 games between 09.03.2012 and 20.07.2016)
Welcome back!

Nine new players qualified for WeC:
Adriana (62,09%)
fojo (60,33%)
lizardkoeng (60,88%)
Lollo (62,01%)
skwasher (65,00%)
tadziu112 (65,16%)
vecchietto (67,33%)
Voter (65,46%)
zapdos (64,71%)
Welcome to WeC!

Matt Plëséier! Avec plaisir! Graag Gedaan!


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20 Dec 2017 16:12 #39484 by M4N!4C
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Ingolf17 wrote: What a disgrace!

You would report this foul game, is beyond me!

Thought we were a community?

Leewie and i left in hand 2, since there were clearly players for table 2, and others were neglected.

I congrat the winner, but i condone the whole game! ... really sad solidarity...




Hey Mr. President # 45 of the United States of Denmark ;-) and Leewie,

First, the table admin is responsible for the table and Kleinvieh clearly said the game will continue. This rule isn’t new, it’s active since the beginning of WeCup.

Second, you both left the game on your own. Theoretically you aren’t qualified for the early quitting rule, so you can see the disco_dummy you both received as a gesture of goodwill. You had also plenty of time to rejoin and the result stays as it is.

Third, Kleinvieh said that POLLOPOKER didn’t respond, so he was probably afk.

Forth, When I joined the Lobby I saw Emmeler and POLOPOKER and two open seats at the table, I also received a notification that I’m 11th currently. So why nobody corrected this or why Fjohn didn’t make any notice of himself?

So if Kleinvieh and a few others have overseen Fjohn the whole time, what justifies all the drama around it? Is it prohibited to do mistakes as a table admin?

Taking about solidarity, the members of the WeC adminboard were and still are confident that anyone who wants to do the table admin job is able to do the right decision if it’s needed to make hard decisions.

Did you receive any complaints by Fjohn or anyone else who was left in Lobby? If so why didn’t they contacted Emmeler, Kleinvieh or me via PM or wrote some thing at the forums?

...and yes, we are still a community even if the workload is shared quite differently. Some doing daily work, for others is to much to read the rules, take part on elections, inform themselves about ongoing stuff in the WeC community or even once take a look at the forums.

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22 Dec 2017 01:33 - 22 Dec 2017 01:39 #39495 by Ingolf17
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M4N!4C wrote:

Ingolf17 wrote: What a disgrace!

You would report this foul game, is beyond me!

Thought we were a community?

Leewie and i left in hand 2, since there were clearly players for table 2, and others were neglected.

I congrat the winner, but i condone the whole game! ... really sad solidarity...




Hey Mr. President # 45 of the United States of Denmark ;-) and Leewie,

First, the table admin is responsible for the table and Kleinvieh clearly said the game will continue. This rule isn’t new, it’s active since the beginning of WeCup.

Second, you both left the game on your own. Theoretically you aren’t qualified for the early quitting rule, so you can see the disco_dummy you both received as a gesture of goodwill. You had also plenty of time to rejoin and the result stays as it is.

Third, Kleinvieh said that POLLOPOKER didn’t respond, so he was probably afk.

Forth, When I joined the Lobby I saw Emmeler and POLOPOKER and two open seats at the table, I also received a notification that I’m 11th currently. So why nobody corrected this or why Fjohn didn’t make any notice of himself?

So if Kleinvieh and a few others have overseen Fjohn the whole time, what justifies all the drama around it? Is it prohibited to do mistakes as a table admin?

Taking about solidarity, the members of the WeC adminboard were and still are confident that anyone who wants to do the table admin job is able to do the right decision if it’s needed to make hard decisions.

Did you receive any complaints by Fjohn or anyone else who was left in Lobby? If so why didn’t they contacted Emmeler, Kleinvieh or me via PM or wrote some thing at the forums?

...and yes, we are still a community even if the workload is shared quite differently. Some doing daily work, for others is to much to read the rules, take part on elections, inform themselves about ongoing stuff in the WeC community or even once take a look at the forums.

Regards

M4N!4C


List of 4 weak excuses imho.
That game showed uncool behaviour, and bad sportsmanship. We needed 2 players for 2nd table, so we usually wait atleast 1-2 mins. The game was started on the exact second (22:00), disregarding the possibility for a 2nd table.

Other players made this statement too in the chat in the first hand.
Ok. Maybe leewie and i left a bit hasty, but imho, it was clear the game was started in haste.

I like disco btw, but i dont like the dummy part. I congrat you that you "beat" us.

Btw, we met another weccer in lobby at 22:03, and low and behold another one... so we waited for the weccers-in-play for common sense to kick in, to no avail.

And dont tell me i dont read the forum, coz i do. I really appreciate your work M4N!4C. Thx :)

Happy Hollidays :)


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22 Dec 2017 13:09 - 22 Dec 2017 13:10 #39496 by M4N!4C
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Tat 4 arguments aren’t weak they are facts.

A table admin can also decide if he/she wants to wait a few minutes. Theoretically you can start the game exactly at 8/10 pm, if you are table admin. A few admin did this be fore with a few guys waiting at the lobby. It’s kinda unsportsmanlike like, but there is no rule preventing you from moving on.
Unfortunately there is no guarantee that a possible second will get filled up to at least 7, resulting in wasted time for players who probably can nont play.

Sorry for the lack of ancient rules documentation, at the other hand that was a duty of pre-adminboard administrations.

Also how can I beat you when you run away, I prefer to get your entire $10,000 stack, not only 1% of it. :evil:
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09 Feb 2018 15:28 - 09 Feb 2018 19:17 #39921 by M4N!4C
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Doc Ijiwaru wrote: Hello friends sorry but I have to tell this, players like ravi should continue playing in ranking games, was a moment when he announced he was leaving and instead of put in autofold or just go, start bingo moves the rest of the game...

win me?? wrote: hi emmeler , maniac and other ADMINS :
SEEMS pe6o = Rezos
PLZ NEVER INVITE HIM TO WECUP .
because we kicked him last year from wecup forever .
i invited him for wecup 20 but i didnt know .
plz kick his other account too .
TY.

last edit after finishing wec 20 :
Player Total count * In preflop First 5 hands Total won
1. pe6o 20 (80%) 19 0 18

Fjohn wrote: Last weeks the players pe6o and ravi join wec games and all they do is go preflop all-in every hand they play. There are two things very surprising that need to be questioned at the same time. Firstly why they keep getting invited, while everyone knows they just go all in (no need for screenshots, if you had played with them you surely had seen it) and secondly how they meet wec rules and if these rules need to be changed in order to include a wec-average too or a wec-behavior in general. All in all, i think those two and any player that behaves like that in the future, should not be invited so as wec does not become a typical ranking game.


Hi Weccies,

thank you for reporting those incidents. If you have any incidents in the future please add log-files and/or screenshots of the incident, other wise it can be quite difficult to take further investigations as an outsider who wasn’t at the table when it happened.
Actually playing bingo isn’t a ban worthy offense. It isn’t wrong to warn other admin of certain players, but it can be a double-edged sword because certain players could file a complaint because they haven’t been invited.

”M4N!4C” wrote: 1.1 Use only one account for participating at WeC games.
If you have any changes concerning your WeC account please contact WeC Administration.


2. NO insulting language! NO harassment! NO cheating!
Any case of misbehaviour will be handled by WeC Administration.


You see the user guidelines are quite slim at the moment. Feel free to suggest some who could be added. I’ll have to edit the first post of the main topic anyway because of recent changes to veterans rules average, now it is 5.7 points.
The 1-2-3-4<=60%-rule also might need some changes, if so the veterans rule will be adjusted too.

One thing I would add, If a player has to leave a table, the corresponding player has to leave and not try to spray his/her stack around the table by playing bingo or by consecutively going All-in.

The Rezos ban goes back to 2013 not 2017 as claimed by win me??, if pe6o is a try to bypass the ban he will be banned and his results replaced by disco_dummys. Did he made some statements in chat that could verify claims made by win me??
It might be appropriate that pe6o won’t receive any invitations until further investigations by WeC adminboard.

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10 Feb 2018 16:19 - 10 Feb 2018 16:28 #39933 by Emmeler
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M4N!4C wrote: ...

win me?? wrote: hi emmeler , maniac and other ADMINS :
SEEMS pe6o = Rezos
PLZ NEVER INVITE HIM TO WECUP .
because we kicked him last year from wecup forever .
i invited him for wecup 20 but i didnt know .
plz kick his other account too .
TY.
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Hi Weccies,

thank you for reporting those incidents. If you have any incidents in the future please add log-files and/or screenshots of the incident, other wise it can be quite difficult to take further investigations as an outsider who wasn’t at the table when it happened.
...

”M4N!4C” wrote: 1.1 Use only one account for participating at WeC games.
If you have any changes concerning your WeC account please contact WeC Administration.
...


...
The Rezos ban goes back to 2013 not 2017 as claimed by win me??, if pe6o is a try to bypass the ban he will be banned and his results replaced by disco_dummys. Did he made some statements in chat that could verify claims made by win me??
It might be appropriate that pe6o won’t receive any invitations until further investigations by WeC adminboard.
...


From a good and reliable source it is confirmed that the account 'pe6o' is another ID of 'Rezos' a player excluded from WeC in July 2013.
As stated above 'pe6o' is off the WeC list now and the related results have been transferred to 'disco_dummy'.


WEC#4580#23.01.2018#20:00#Blupher#DerSchlesier#oleg77-77-77#Victor_mpt#Doc Ijiwaru#boehmi#Kleinvieh#pe6o disco_dummy#win me??#tresmanos
WEC#4587#26.01.2018#20:00#pe6o disco_dummy#Blupher#Xray#win me??#Bab#dmi3ij#Ingolf17#tresmanos#akia#Doc Ijiwaru
WEC#4598#02.02.2018#20:00#Doc Ijiwaru#Dati#dmi3ij#hotte#827#pe6o disco_dummy#akia#win me??##
WEC#4604#05.02.2018#20:00#DerSchlesier#POLLOPOKER#Victor_mpt#tresmanos#pe6o disco_dummy#Ingolf17#Bab#Blupher#Doc Ijiwaru#
WEC#4605#05.02.2018#22:00#pe6o disco_dummy#Blupher#Falli#boehmi#Fjohn#Victor_mpt#LiLaLux###
WEC#4611#08.02.2018#20:00##Doc Ijiwaru#pe6o disco_dummy#dmi3ij#Lizard1#tresmanos#Fjohn#pm1704#win me??#Dati#Victor_mpt


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